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**cosyfiep** · Jan 08, 2013, 02:50 AM // 02:50

the original gw is STILL a great game, there is no reason to knock it--if you arent playing it, its YOUR loss. The game has TONS to offer that NO OTHER GAME CAN (not even the precious gw2!!!). THAT is why there are still people playing it and BUYING it. (just check out the thread in OT about finding another game like gw--no one could come up with one...it is unique!)

Mintha Syl · Jan 08, 2013, 09:01 AM // 09:01

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Originally Posted by Sofonisba

I'll bet just the thought of people firing up a game of Bejeweled or Spider Solitaire keeps you up at night, eh?

And I bet the thought of people playing tetris or pacman makes him want to hide in a bunker...sigh.
I really don't get why, in this forum (which is not gw2 forum) everytime there's a topic about expanding/staying on this game, someone comes out from the blue defending gw2 and insulting gw players...what is the point? And what is the point of being on, and writing on, the forum of a game you'd rather see death? Just to be a troll?

Anyway have to say a thing I didn't know where to write...did you all see an increase of population lately? When gw2 came out, italian districts were ghost towns, nobody to be found...lately I started seeing people around, and yesterday everywhere I went there was 2-3 persons chatting and starting missions together...I was so amazed....you think it's a general trend or only cause of holidays?

**cosyfiep** · Jan 08, 2013, 09:48 AM // 09:48

the holiday is over....so unless they still have time off (would be nice)...most peeps should be back at work/school (school vacation for college is what? another 2-3 weeks off???? never did understand having a whole month off in dec/jan).

I have seen more people talking in LA and other places, and most are saying they are back because they have yet to finish gw (original) or just didnt get into gw2; either way this game is NOT dead--heck there are still people who refuse to leave pre-searing!! so yeah, not sure why peeps feel the need to defend the other game here.

sun strike · Jan 08, 2013, 11:02 AM // 11:02

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Originally Posted by IlikeGW

GW2 won several game of the year awards. They were well deserved. Don't believe the haters GW2 expands the capacity of the devs in pretty much every way to make a much cooler experience.

Things have changed, but it's worth it for WvW, a bigger live team than ever with cool updates, and just massive amount of content. Honestly people still playing GW1 kind of scare me... like a record is skipping and they're just sitting there listening to it that way. The future isn't evil.

skimming through your pasts posts, you are being biased, you seem to have severe hate for gw.

Ayuhmii Shanbwa · Jan 08, 2013, 11:25 AM // 11:25

i'll say this about it:

if they should be doing well, like balancing GW2's gameplay and such, so it can go on with a bug and balance fix here and there, and after a while some expansions, then if they should give us, GW players, another expansion, we'll surely buy it

same with those playing both games, getting expansions for both games

also, if we look at perfect world for example, they have more than 2 games, yet the oldest game is still being updated (few months ago, it got whole new quests and such)
i dont get where they get it from, that once a newer game came out, that they leave their older games... if PW wouldve done that, they'd lose lots of customers

anet isnt stupid either, and so may better release an expansion for GW, to keep those customers happy
as said before: people play both GW and GW2, and some even dont like GW2, so will be back in GW.... would be stupid to leave those customers without any expansions

its just that thx to GW2's release, they used up alot of resources, and so need to get that back, by balancing the way GW2 goes (not just skills, also the bugs and such)

after that they'll be able to release the content elona would have, and after that they could start a new expansion... which IF they do, i hope they'll make more toward fun playing, than story toward GW2, tbh

but thats up to them

if they can do it, they wont be stupid and wait til GW really dies, as they could make money out of GW with new things, and maybe lure more people toward GW2, with a GW2 pack which also has that new GW expansion, but then the total of GW2 and that expansion, and a little bit off
that way people are like: oh, its cheaper if i buy GW2 and that expansion in 1 pack

i wouldnt buy it, cuz i've seen GW2 is totally not my game (although i see it IS a good game), but many other could think that would be a nice time to try

GW2 is new, and totally new, so it needs time, and once Anet got to the right direction with it, they may do much more in GW, too, which also takes some time then

all i can say is: there is a possibility, but be patient before raging against GW or GW2... or Anet for that matter

and stop making false facts (which arent facts then o_O)

well, i guess i said what i have to, to make my points clear enough

Iceblue · Jan 08, 2013, 02:04 PM // 14:04

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Originally Posted by IlikeGW

GW2 won several game of the year awards. They were well deserved. Don't believe the haters GW2 expands the capacity of the devs in pretty much every way to make a much cooler experience.

Things have changed, but it's worth it for WvW, a bigger live team than ever with cool updates, and just massive amount of content. Honestly people still playing GW1 kind of scare me... like a record is skipping and they're just sitting there listening to it that way. The future isn't evil.

I agree that GW2 is worth it for several things, lore being the most prominent one. However, the reason certain players keep going back to playing GW1 is for the same reason that Chess has been around for over 2000 years.... its called strategy. Its also why checkers, battleship, risk, monopoly, and other board games are consistently played in my home. STRATEGY!.... unfortunately, GW2 does not require strategy.

This is also why I think ArenaNet should come out with new maps/expansions for GW1. Players who enjoy the strategy of the game will buy them, even if there are no new classes, skills, etc. ArenaNet in their reasons for making GW2 said "While the promise of fresh standalone content twice a year sounds great to players, its requirements have actually caused Guild Wars to become somewhat convoluted from a game-design perspective.[1]" Instead of changing the business model of stand alone campaigns every 6 months, they should have just added expansions every six months....

And an FYI, supposedly the business model of new stand alone content every 6 months has been transferred over to GW2. Does anyone doubt that in 2 to 3 years GW2 will also become too convoluted?

Martin Firestorm · Jan 08, 2013, 04:18 PM // 16:18

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Originally Posted by cosyfiep

so yeah, not sure why peeps feel the need to defend the other game here.

Because these threads always include a few GW2 sucks posts. I don't think anyone here could be described as a GW hater. Not me for sure considering I played the hell out of it for 7 years. For me I just ran out of things I wanted to do, but I still check in on my GH from time to time, chat with a couple friends who also refuse to try GW2 for various reasons and always seem to be logged in, etc. This game will always hold a special place in my heart. May even play it again some more one of these days, for nostalgia if nothing else.

Sofonisba · Jan 08, 2013, 04:45 PM // 16:45

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Originally Posted by Martin Firestorm

...who also refuse to try GW2 for various reasons and always seem to be logged in, etc.

I don't know if you really were, but please don't assume, like IlikeGW does, that all of us here "refused" to try GW2, that we fear the future. Some of us played GW from launch, waited 4 years from the announcement of GW2, prepurchased, played GW2 for 2 months, tried desperately to love the game, but eventually got bored silly. Came back to GW for actual fun.

Unfortunately, even though GW and GW2 bear absolutely no resemblance to one another whatsoever, they are not treated as separate games and are probably joined at the hip when it comes to resources. We can't expect more content for GW because they're all working on GW2. Grr

**cosyfiep** · Jan 08, 2013, 05:08 PM // 17:08

yeah, that makes sense...

I, too, tried to like gw2...but after it blue-screened my computer (and since hubby cant play it on his), I just couldnt find it in my (fill in blank) to buy it (and no, I wont upgrade my computer just for some stupid silly video game

). We both played during the betas to see if we even liked the game, but my carpal tunnel said otherwise, and my hubby would rather play alien crossfire (hows that for an old game, huh???).....so nope, no plans to buy it and hope that anet see that others, like me, liked the originality and such of the original enough to make some further expansions (please please!!)

so not a hater, just not a liker (of gw2).

Martin Firestorm · Jan 08, 2013, 07:21 PM // 19:21

Nah, I make no assumptions about why somepone in particular does not play GW2. I'm just like you except for the trying desperately to love GW2 part. Both of my friends still playing GW1 regularly don't have the comp for GW2 and won't upgrade. I do think GW lovers who have the comp power should at least try GW2, for all the obvious reasons. While not the same games, they have a lot in comon, so it just makes sense. I doubt we'll see anymore meaningful content for GW1, and certainly not an expansion. But if there is I'll sure check it out.

Burning Freebies · Jan 08, 2013, 08:07 PM // 20:07

To be fair, I have only said the game is dead because I don't spend much time in LA. I'm working on titles atm (Aren't we all...) so i am more often than not in a populated place. You know, like any mission outpost. They were all dead anyway after the initial release of the games, so that shouldn't be a problem. Also, I see LA with one district of people, I see Kama with 1 or 2 districts of people, I see Temple of Ages with plenty of people...Its not dead, its still alive (if that point hadn't already been established). Although you can't say it was as strong as it once was...

I also had my first two parties made up of only players in the past 2 months, doing Zaishen quests (hey, I don't get out much). Those things are really keeping players going, I think. Its great that I can team up with people to do the last missions I have to do to finish my guardian titles etc.

**cosyfiep** · Jan 08, 2013, 11:22 PM // 23:22

LA has been dead since nightfall came out and the trade/party window thing that transformed kamadan into spamdan...and then when the 7 heroes came out more outposts depopulated. So its hard to judge the population of a game when all you see is the outposts that no one needs to hang out in anymore, yeah there are a lot less people in the few places that used to be rocking, but that doesnt mean the game is dead.

and I hope we are wrong and they will do something (especially since they have to know that people are still playing and BUYING the original gw!)

ruk1a · Jan 09, 2013, 06:13 AM // 06:13

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Originally Posted by cosyfiep

LA has been dead since nightfall came out and the trade/party window thing that transformed kamadan into spamdan...and then when the 7 heroes came out more outposts depopulated. So its hard to judge the population of a game when all you see is the outposts that no one needs to hang out in anymore, yeah there are a lot less people in the few places that used to be rocking, but that doesnt mean the game is dead.

and I hope we are wrong and they will do something (especially since they have to know that people are still playing and BUYING the original gw!)

Honestly the Guild Wars official facebook page keeps me hopeful... they are fairly active and that's where I get my GW1 updates from.

I think they are working on things right now but it just takes forever because what the team has to be like 3 or 4 people at most lol.

Btw they do take feedback there.

Mintha Syl · Jan 09, 2013, 10:05 AM // 10:05

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Originally Posted by ruk1a

I think they are working on things right now but it just takes forever because what the team has to be like 3 or 4 people at most lol.

Are they? I mean, last I heard they were all (all 3 or 4 that is :P) shifted to gw2 to help there for some times, are they back already?

**cosyfiep** · Jan 09, 2013, 01:09 PM // 13:09

yeah its news to me as well (I dont do anything with facebook), but would be nice if they would post on a forum some news either way.

Iceblue · Jan 10, 2013, 08:02 AM // 08:02

Well since a little before wintersday someone who signs off ~SL has been updating the GW1 facebook page consistently... I wonder who they are.

Motoko · Jan 10, 2013, 06:27 PM // 18:27

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Originally Posted by IlikeGW

GW2 won several game of the year awards. They were well deserved.

I am going to start with this biased statement.

GW2 won several of the game of the year awards? Really? Against what competition? Diablo III? LOL. Get real. GW2 won awards because it is pretty and every other game that has come out has been stale and uninventive (Including GW2 it was just one of the prettiest).

What are people's defense for GW2 not being dead? The servers are "populated"? Haha. "Commercially it is a success"? Seriously? Those are your defense statements? Go join those dev teams where they only care about the commercial success rather than the deep success of the video game itself. The care and unique aspects of GW1 are what has kept it enduring through these years.

The population of decline is greater in GW2 than it is in GW1 if you were to compare release to activity. That is a fact. Some people didn't like GW1? Great go pay to play with WoW. You had another alternative. GW2? Uhhh... Free to play WoW... No alternative... I'll just go back to GW1.

Back on topic: Making the PvP free to play would help increase activity and opting for the FTP accounts to purchase the trilogy to have access to the PvP reward skins and PvE content would help the game out. I would suggest increasing some easily accessible playerbase before rolling out an expansion.

Razer.blue · Jan 10, 2013, 10:56 PM // 22:56

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Originally Posted by Gladiator Motoko

Back on topic: Making the PvP free to play would help increase activity and opting for the FTP accounts to purchase the trilogy to have access to the PvP reward skins and PvE content would help the game out. I would suggest increasing some easily accessible playerbase before rolling out an expansion.

+1

This is what we need. I think it's a great idea. GW PvP is the best and more important, unique. You want to get the player base up without spoiling the game. You could also make pre-searing/starters zones free to play.

There are a lot of things NCSoft could do. Also, they could add new services/items to the store specifically aimed on these new players.

If it catches on and the playerbase indeed increases, another expansion could be, indeed, a possibility. Especially if the GW2 playerbase drops (only ncsoft know the numbers, therefore this remains a speculation), it would be dangerous to put 100% focus on GW2. They could make profit on GW1 by a new concept/expansion.

Guild Wars 1 is truly an unique game. It has many, many more years of life in it IF the GWcommunity / ncsoft come up with creative idea's to keep it alive and profitable.

Sofonisba · Jan 10, 2013, 11:50 PM // 23:50

I would cry tears of joy if GW pvp got resed. Sounds silly, but it's true. Can't find that kind of fun anywhere else.

Burning Freebies · Jan 11, 2013, 01:57 PM // 13:57

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Originally Posted by Razer.blue

+1

This is what we need. I think it's a great idea. GW PvP is the best and more important, unique. You want to get the player base up without spoiling the game. You could also make pre-searing/starters zones free to play.

There are a lot of things NCSoft could do. Also, they could add new services/items to the store specifically aimed on these new players.

If it catches on and the playerbase indeed increases, another expansion could be, indeed, a possibility. Especially if the GW2 playerbase drops (only ncsoft know the numbers, therefore this remains a speculation), it would be dangerous to put 100% focus on GW2. They could make profit on GW1 by a new concept/expansion.

Guild Wars 1 is truly an unique game. It has many, many more years of life in it IF the GWcommunity / ncsoft come up with creative idea's to keep it alive and profitable.

I'm gonna sound like mega noob here-what do you mean by "free to play" starter zones and pvp?